#44293: "Bring turn based players back to the table between step 2/3 of Epidemic cards (Rather than after 3)"
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Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• At which step of the game did the problem occur (what was the current game instruction)?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
This suggestion is that in a turn-based game the players are called back to the table after step two, but before step three of an Epidemic card being resolved; rather than after step three has been resolved which seems to be the case right now. (i.e. Bring them back at the same timing window as Resilient Population is playable)
This would also mean the players would need to press a confirm button (this functionality could be altered with a player option) so that the game does not automatically advance once the final person views the table.
The new message might look something like the following "A new Epidemic has occurred. The Infection discard pile is about to be shuffled once all players confirm. Resilient Population may be played now (if available). [Confirm]"• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
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Both are in service of allowing more information to turn-based players about what was in the discard pile that just got shuffled as this information is easily missed.
In a game played IRL we will always use the privilege provided to us by the rules ("Players may freely examine either discard pile at any time") to ensure we know, and then track what is being shuffled and placed on the Infection draw pile
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