#79476: "Unable to view teammate ability cards"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Again, on mobile there is no clear indication that selecting the dice face of a teammate will display their available actions. This is not a sufficient way to present the information that would be available to all players in the physical table top version of the game.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• At which step of the game did the problem occur (what was the current game instruction)?
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
I should be able to view the ability cards of my teammate and a hover text on their dice is not sufficient. On mobile, it is not intuitive or made known that selecting the teammate's rolled dice faces will show their abilities they must choose from.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
The BGA Studio Guidelines (en.doc.boardgamearena.com/BGA_Studio_Guidelines) state that an adaptation of a game must abide by the following:
- Fidelity to the original game is an absolute requirement.
- Don't try to create a video game: make your game interface as close as possible to how the original board game looks like.
- Don't hide game elements behind menus, submenus, dialogs, etc, but display them directly on the main page.
- Every information visible by players in the real game should be accessible in the adaptation.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v108
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Another option would utilize the same action that the "Toggle Guards" button in a two-player game currently uses. Perhaps it could be implemented as a "Toggle Teammate Cards" button, or possibly a toggle button for each player.
The final option is to have the other player ability cards below my ability cards available for view by scrolling.
Further, BGA adaptations require publisher approval before it can be released. The publisher has made it clear that the other players' cards should not be visible.
I am currently working on clearer messages for the commander's actions. Each issue should be listed as a separate bug report in future.
Consider an asynchronous game. I ask in chat what my teammate's card does. But it's my turn, and they get no notification of it. They don't answer because they don't realize there is anything needed of them. Play stalls out.
I come back to a game where my teammate played their turn. I look in the game log to see what happened. The game log tells me the flavor text name of what my teammate did. Since I can't see the card, I have to hunt the log for what they actually did because I can't remember what the "Feint" action means.
It's all well and good for a designer to want to make a game that fosters this beautiful display of camaraderie and unbreakable, lifelong relationships. But crippling the gameplay experience in this way in the name of bonding and teamwork makes for a weaker overall experience and limits the appeal to a wider audience.
And the argument that we want to avoid having one player tell everyone what to do is invalid; alphagaming is a player problem, not a design problem.
Perhaps the fear of quarterbacking or alphagaming is because you know someone very well with a strong desire to not take input from others and command control?
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- Did F5 solve the problem?
- Did the problem appear several times? Every time? Randomly?
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