#51911: "Unique 5th die MUST be selected in first three turns"
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This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• At which step of the game did the problem occur (what was the current game instruction)?
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
At move two playing as my player - PopularOutcast. I should not have been allowed to choose my 5th die as 6. At the beginning of turn 4, all unique 5th die values should have been chosen. Mine have not been. I did not choose a unique 5th die until the 6th turn.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
This was already reported and marked as not a bug. It *is* a bug. As per rules linked from game "In each of the first three turns, each player must select a unique 5th die to add to their chart in the three left boxes and must also mark the use of that die number by filling in the first check box." This is not being enforced in the game.
It is also mentioned in "Note that no"free throw" is available until the fourth turn after all players have chosen their 3 unique "5th die" values." So this isn't an interpretation of rules issue. The game expects that a unique 5th die will be selected in the first three turns.
From a game implementation perspective, that means that in the first three turns players should not be given the option of selecting a roll where the 5th die is the same as one already chosen.• Which browser are you using?
Mozilla v5
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This is not difficult to reproduce. It will happen on the second turn if the same 5th die is rolled (chances are it will be).
Official rules in the link above. Sorry for keep you waiting but I had to check with EGG. They confirmed that: "it is NOT mandatory to pick 3 5th die numbers in the first 3 turns."
I quoted the official reply from EGG.
So this is not a bug.
Can someone please update the games page on BGA (boardgamearena.com/gamepanel?game=cantstopexpress) because the rules linked to on that page say that you must mark a 5th number in each of your first three turns.
They also state what happens if you cannot chose a new 5th die:
"If, in the first three rounds, the roll of the dice does not allow a player to choose a NEW unique "5th die" number [because all the dice match their current "5th die" number(s)], then they must still take a number as their "5th die" marking off another box for that number"
That ruling of them, which contradicts the rules as available to players on BGA, is not reachable.
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