#43968: "Tournament admins should be allowed to remove players before the tournament starts"
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• Please copy/paste the error message you see on your screen, if applicable.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• At which step of the game did the problem occur (what was the current game instruction)?
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
it happens that players left BGA, or are rarely connected or simply said they will not play the tournament but they didn't unregister from it.
Tournament admins/hosts should be allowed to simply remove such players from the list, just before the tournament starts.
This way there will be easily less missing players, which is the most annoying and seriously damaging issue with tournaments in BGA.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v91
Report history
Since this last-minute check is not carried out on BGA, the running of the tournaments on this site, especially in the Swiss system, is seriously impacted by games that are over time, often because one of the players did not play any move.
Many of these players are easily identifiable when they have been banned from BGA, when they have bad Karma, or when they have not been connected for a long time.
That is why I support this initiative to allow tournament organizers to eliminate members from a tournament, just before its start, based on objective and previously defined criteria.
I just tried, anyway, to keep my suggestion easy to implement for the developers as it seems that suggestions are hardly considered anyway from the list (matter of urgency/importance?).
My real big idea would be a confirmation link just before the tournament (and the games) start, but that would mean further and more complex work.
While, strictly speaking, the possibility to simply REMOVE a player from the list BEFORE the tournament starts is definitely something extremely easy to implement.
I had several situations where I would have needed this option, but remember, increasing power means as well increasing selection criteria!
Personally, I would like the possibility to have a confirmation period before the start of the tournament.
In the confirmation period, all players that joined the tournament before the start of the confirmation period would have to go to the tournament and confirm their presence.
How it works:
* The players would obviously get a notification at the start of the confirmation period
* They would possibly get an email (user's choice to receive such emails or not)
* Ideally, they would have a big yellow banner like when you are waited at a table and clicking "next table"
* Ideally also, when you are cycling through the tables at which you are being waited for would also include the tournament presence confirmation page.
* Players that do not confirm their presence before the actual start of the tournament would get booted form the tournament at a karma cost (No ELO cost has this all happens before any table is created)
* Players would also have the choice to cancel their participation at no karma cost or smaller karma cost
* Players that join the tournament after the start of the confirmation period are automatically confirmed (to avoid problems for those joining at the last moment)
* If selected, the confirmation period would start T time before the start of the tournament and would last for T. By default, T would correspond to how much time a player has to make his first move in the game with a minimum of 10 minutes.
** Ideally, the tournament master can also add a small reserve period that starts after the end of confirmation period. During the reserve period, players who did not confirm their presence have already been dropped which allows other players to join the tournament if the tournament was previously full. This could be further combined with a waiting list allowing people to be notified when a tournament they are interested in is no longer full.
** No actual confirmation period is made if the tournament is created to soon before its actual start compared to the duration of the confirmation period
For some tournaments, like slow turn-based tournament with 2 players tables, this has relatively little interest. But for some, this confirmation would be very welcome :
* Real time tournament planned well in advance where many players could time-out on their first move
* Tournaments with tables with more than 2 players where any player dropping on their first move in the game would mean that the game is played with N players but with a N+1 players setup and (possibly) N+1 players rules which is very far from ideal and might work very poorly or not at all for some games. It's also kind of a breach of agreement with the publishers as the game isn't really played with the correct rules if the setup doesn't match the effective number of players.
In real life, if a friend doesn't show up, you either setup the game for one less player or invite someone else at the last minute or play something else. You don't play say Agricola with 2 players but with the cards of a 3 player cards
For swiss tournaments, players who timeout on a game should get booted from the tournament.
This way the tournament administrator doesn't get any additional privileges and also prevents people from being excluded for personal preference.
I will patiently wait for your Reply Hopping that You will find a solution and get rid of my Penalties and get back My Penalties points and my Arena tournament Gold points that I struggling to get it because also of Penalties that I recieved and was not my Fault and it's unfair from BGA.
Thank you for your understanding in Advance and Hoping that you will reimburse me My lost Points.
Thank , Best, ZORBA111222
but X register to tournament Y
yeah I know it's not logic
but people do that , so the host can't remove the player X , also X rt Y
BGA is slow (perhaps rightfully) to remove these accounts individually but they still gum up tourneys.
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