#37521: "Is it ok to mislead the other players through the chat? "
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I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
It's about the activity from chat!
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
It's about the activity from chat!
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
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• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
It's about the activity from chat!
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
I thought the chat is about greeting the other players or to discuss general things outside the game. NOT talking about the cards you discovered as an individual player. In this game I've played the other players keep writing things like:
- right after they played a map card they wrote imediately what they saw under, eg. "middle is gold" or "bottom is coal". Sometimes they were right (when they were the gold miner) but also they were false (the saboteur)
- they ask what is under the map card when other player used this card
- who they think is the saboteur...
When you play face-to-face you only GUESS those informations (and you play acordingly) but you DON'T offer / share FACTS!
And I don't understand why this is acceptable for the online version.
Excerpts from the rules:
- Deal one card to each player, who looks at it and puts it face down in front of him WITHOUT REVEALING HIS ROLE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS. (Setup)
- The members of each group should work together, but often they CAN ONLY GUESS who their allies are! [... ] But, the identity of each dwarf is not revealed until the gold is split up. (Object of the Game)
So, in the original rules is NOTHING about misleading ON PURPOSE the others.
Is it ok?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v89
Report history
EugeneLiapin dream team 12:47 PM
red is sub 12:47 PM
EugeneLiapinno sub? 12:52 PM
EugeneLiapin what is up? 12:53 PM
ANDN r u serios? 12:54 PM
Liza Fox Patronus What's the top? 12:54 PM
EugeneLiapin what is on top> 12:54 PM
ANDN i don't think this is how we have to play 12:55 PM
EugeneLiapin this is exately how to play 12:55 PM
where schould we dig? 12:55 PM
ANDN i'll investigate the rules! 12:56 PM
EugeneLiapin good luck with that 12:56 PM
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EugeneLiapin i think yellow is sub 01:18 PM
ANDN i think you are and i also think you play against the rules! 01:19 PM
EugeneLiapin gosh 01:19 PM
check the rules 01:19 PM
ANDN i will. i don't think you are allowed to mislead the other players by this chat. 01:20 PM
EugeneLiapin i am not mislead anyone 01:20 PM
i communicate 01:20 PM
that is the point of the game 01:20 PM
Liza Fox Patronus Top is gold, guys. Anyone who is not a saboteur, please, help to find it 01:20 PM
lailaion Fix me please 01:21 PM
EugeneLiapin yellow, i think you dont get the point of the game, but l do like your style 01:22 PM
i just get the whole bunch of good mood 01:22 PM
thank you, my friend 01:22 PM
Because it would make no sense to allow a player to declare having a role he does not have, without allowing the players to claim the role corresponding to the card received.
When it comes to banning verbal exchanges between players, that would have nothing to do with the rule that says nothing about it.
I suppose that Saboteur was extensively tested before being marketed, and a negligence of the author on an issue as essential as the exchange of information between players seems to me excluded in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
Your bug has probably been fixed already, or was linked to a temporary failure of BGA service.
In any case, when filling a bug report, make sure to have an explicit title linked to the incident (ex: with error message), so other players can recognize it and vote for it.
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