#21686: "Selector for number of meeples is misleading; replace with different selector widget"
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When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• What was the game action you wanted to do?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
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• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• At which step of the game did the problem occur? What was the current game instruction?
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
-
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. -
• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
• Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
-
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
When you click on a tile to bid on or activate it, a dialog comes up to select the number and colour of the meeples that you mean to use. Its layout visually suggests the physical meeples that you might have behind your screen; but if you "pull a single meeple from the right end of the line", as many of us would do in a physical game, what the interface does is use *all* of your meeples, because rather than corresponding to single physical meeple (as the interface visually suggests), each meeple icon corresponds to a different *number* of meeples.
This is listed as a "suggestion" but really rises to the level of a UI bug---four of the five players in my game last night did this at least once, each time quite sure they'd only grabbed one meeple (and quite upset that this had thus messed up their board position due to wasted meeples). The fifth player said at one point, "yes, I've played this game dozens of times on BGA and I still do that by accident sometimes".
There are many possible fixes. E.g.:
1) If the number selected represents an overbid of more than 1 (e.g. clicking 2 on an empty tile, or 3 on a tile with only 1 meeple so far), request confirmation from the user. It's perfectly valid to overbid and sometimes it's intentional, but it's also not the usual case so it's ok to ask for confirmation.
2) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [1] [2] [3] ... i.e. only have the meeple icon there to show the colour, then click on a square button with a number in it to say how many. This divorces the visual interface from a physical representation so you won't subconsciously "grab the rightmost meeple".
3) Change the interface so that each meeple-with-number shows a stack beneath it with that many meeples in it. Again, divorcing it a little from the physical representation of "row of meeples" and changing it to "how big of a stack of meeples to select".
4) Change the interface to [meeple icon] [pulldown] [OK] so that you can pull down to the number of meeples you want to place---defaulting to 1 if the tile is unselected or the minimum useful number if this is an overbid/reactivation (e.g. default to 3 if there are already 2 meeples on the tile).
Or something else! Many other interfaces would not have the problems that the current one has. • Which browser are you using?
Safari v11.1
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