#162: "Winner when deck ends"
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In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Please explain what you wanted to do, what you did and what happened
From move 7 on.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
From move 7 on.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Which part of the rules was not followed by the BGA adaptation
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Is the rules violation visible on game replay? If yes, at which move number?
From move 7 on.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• What was the game action you wanted to do?
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• What did you try to do to trigger this game action?
From move 7 on.• What happened when you tried to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• At which step of the game did the problem occur (what was the current game instruction)?
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• What happened when you tried to do this game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
From move 7 on.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Please describe the display issue. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Please copy/paste the text displayed in English instead of your language. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use Imgur.com to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Is this text available in the translation system? If yes, has it been translated for more than 24 hours?
From move 7 on.• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
• Please explain your suggestion precisely and concisely so that it's as easy as possible to understand what you mean.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Which browser are you using?
Google Chrome v31
Report history
We are thinking about alternatives...
When a player takes the 3 card penalty the table should be restores as it was AT THE BEGINNING of the round, thing that actually doesn't happen and that made possible to use this bug to get an automatic win in the last round.
You should introduce something to limit this situation ('cause the player who take advantage of this situation is going to do it sistematically in every game he played... and trust me, it's sad that one player plays nasty with this trick and all other users can't do anything ), as
1) To effectively restore the table as it was on the beginning of the round, or
2) Introduce something like a limit to cheat in this way (i.e. after 5 penalties you get the lost game), or
3) Declare the draw if the deck ends (in the original Machiavelli card game the purpose of the game it's to place all the cards in your hand on the table, not trying to finish the deck with less card than your opponent).
If you can try to fix the problem 'cause the situation is really really frustrating... it's like if in any kind of sport someone instead of playing with the rules is taking automatically a win by forfeit
I remember, the purpose of the game it's to play all the cards in your hand, and when the deck finished in the real card game all the players lost, no one should get a win this way.
Now there are more players that use this... let's call "feature" to get a victory.
I repeat, this can let you play in a way that in the real game will give you a loss and make you score a win, this is exactly the opposite of the purpose of the game.
So sad that people who uses this... to me is still a cheat, will improve their record.
1) The first player who finish the cards in his/her hand wins the game
2) When a player reach his/her 5th penalty is disqualified from the game.
If possible please apply this rules to avoid what's happening now on BGA, that more player are going to use this fraudulent way of play to get an automatic win when in the real card game you'll get a loss.
The winning depends only on luck.
The version that is implement is more interesting and depends on tactic.
Noone have to take so much cards that the other can take all, and the game is honest.
I vore to not change the version of this game
I repeat: an admin said
"This is the way the game has been implemented right now, for good reasons (limiting the game duration).
We are thinking about alternatives..."
Now there is no more problem about the game duration with the turn-base games, so I assume it will be better to erase a rule invented on the site (a really nasty one BTW, 'cause it won't concede the chance to play to the players who don't use that cheat) to restore original rules of the game
when deck ends, nobody wins : it's a draw.
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